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By Michelle Buonfiglio Sat., Nov. 10, 2007 , 2:13 pm EST

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It's been so long since I've had a nice little binge on erotica or erotic romance, I'd almost forgotten: I love to read sex. Good God! When life gets too busy to simply grab up and gobble up a novel simply to feel the love, you know you've got your priorities totally whacked. Least that's what's happened to me.

So I cracked open our friend Jess Michaels/Jenna Petersen's "Everything Forbidden." (Nov. Avon Red). It's got everything I love in an historical erotic romance: poor virgin heroine who wants to give her sisters Seasons that will help them marry well; a virile, profligate, sexually dynamic marquess next door who's willing to trade paying for those Seasons for unlimited access to said poor virgin heroine's bod and burgeoning sensuality; opportunity for h/hn to get in over their heads emotionally while having very steamy sex.

The book works great, cause Michaels got game with the prose, and turns a nice, sexy phrase and sensual love scene that works for readers who want sexy that pushes the envelope just a tad. The best part is that the sensuality is celebrated by both hero and heroine - but I'll not dish why that's such a cool, sexy part of the story.

Bella Portia Da Costa sent me her recent Oct. Black Lace erotic release, "Hotbed," and, as always, it's a mélange of powerful sexual scenarios and highly charged erotic imagery. The novel, like the majority of her erotica and romantic erotica, teems with outrageous couplings - sexual and relational - that arouse by the very fact that they're so damn, well, beyond: beyond merely titillating, beyond the Average Jo-anne's fantasy, and, in some cases, deliciously beyond the pale.

That's the beauty of Portia Da Costa. She hurls dead sexy scenes and language at the reader which touches on deepest fantasy, but kicks it up so it's even better than what we could come up with on our own. And Da Costa's writing is awe-inspiring - especially when you think that she just hangs out here every day talking about her kitty and stuff. There ain't a writer of erotica or erotic romance who don't owe her props. You may not be ready for t160he intensity of Da Costa's novels - but buck up and give em a try -- yet when you place them up against just about everything else "erotic" being written, you see their superiority, as well as the impact they've had upon the genre/sub-genre.

This talk of erotica is getting me excited -- no pun -- about having a second annual "Hot Topic Week," in which we'll explore erotica, erotic romance, and what it all means (besides the obvious, at least in my relationship).

What do you like about erotica/erotic romance? Have you given it a try and not liked it? Why? Who are your fave authors of the really hot stuff?

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Very cool back-to-back-to-back series coming in late December from Lynsay Sands and Avon! The Argeneau three book series about two vamps and a vampette are being released Jan-March, with No Waiting. We'll have Argeneau series exclusives beginning December at "Romance: B(u)y the Book," plus a GuestBlog with Sands right here at LTR!

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Buona sera, Bellas, and hi, you naughty erotic romance authors, you! It's really lovely to read you chicks all talking about how healthy it is to read and fantasize about sex. It's empowering and enriching and oh, so good for the soul.____When we were getting ready to go to Dallas to shoot interviews for RBTB, I sent a box of romance and erom to the sr Producer for Lifetime, who was going to be running the shoots. When he got to Dallas, he'd just been finishing up Lacey Alexander's last novel. He was so funny, telling me his impressions. He said it was interesting, because the character kept saying, "oh,no, I'm not like *that,* I couldn't do something so outrageous," and then she did it. He's such a sweet, smart guy, and it was neat to see how he was "getting" how "average" women would relate to that "unleashed repression" in a heroine. He was smiling an awful lot when he was talking about the book, too. :)____One of the best things in my life, is getting to talk here, with you, about stuff like these books and how they relate to our expression of our sexualities within our relationships and lives. I never had anyone to talk to about this stuff before, and my life has grown immeasurably by the opportunity.
(@*#$@*()#$%&( This is what I get for being REALLY good this past 3-day weekend and keeping my nose to the grind. I get my proposal done and off to Deidre, then when I return to work, I see I've missed out on a TOTALLY HOT conversation! I am sooo ticked at myself for not playing on the net yesterday!! *sigh* __________I love erotic romance, but have mixed emotions about erotica, simply because I's GOT to have my HEA. I need some payoff when I invest time in characters. Not to mention that one of the reasons why I read romance is to escape from the humdrum of my daily existence. Fantasies are always welcome IMHO. I enjoy Holly, Ward, Sylvia Day to name just a few authors. I tend to read books not authors. ____________I think erotic romance/erotica give authors the ability to push the envelope, but it's got to be done well for me to enjoy the fantasy. For example, I've only found one menage story that I really liked, although I really enjoyed Shayla Black's excerpt for Decadent. It's on my TBB list. I loved the forbidden aspect of it. I can't tell you what I loved about the excerpt. Maybe just the fact that I thought it was so well written. It pulled me in, and that's what I want when I read sex. *I* want to be the heroine. I want to feel every pulsing beat, every rub of a hero's thumb, every flick of his tongue over my lips. When an author writes it so I feel that physical aspect...well, THAT's good erotica/erotic romance. ___Monica
Just picked up your addie, Leeann! Hope to get the books in the post to you tomorrow... :)
Cra.p I miss one day and I feel like I have missed a weeks worth of stuff between work and everything else :o) _______ yeah Portia You so made my day! That was me!! (LeeAnn doing happy dance since now she doesn’t have to wait till January to get Portia’s latest book) ______ Ok have to get back to catching up at work. Will have to check back in later ;o)
Bless you, Stacy : ) That's what I most enjoy about writing the super-erotic Lacey stuff. I know I'm never going to EXPERIENCE the wild stuff I write about, but it's entertaining to think about it ; ) I think sex is such a complex, compelling, fun, complicated, difficult, and wonderful thing that I love exploring its many components through both of my personas. And like you said, it's a hugely IMPORTANT thing in a person's life, and within a relationship.
Toni, that's why I love your books so much, because you're not encouraging women to go out and go crazy, but to think, and to enjoy the pleasure of a forbidden fantasy within the comfort of their own home, and mind. There are quite a few fantasies that I enjoy reading about, but would never consider them in real life. That's part of the excitement - imagining it instead of doing it. Because that way, the outcome is whatever you want it to be, and that's what makes it pleasurable. On the other hand, I think if a woman indulges in some of her favorite fantasies, it gives her the confidence to approach her partner and be a little more bold with that person, to explore that intimacy and grow closer. I think a lot of people underestimate physical intimacy, discounting it as not as important, but I disagree. I know it can build a stronger relationship, create a stronger bond, because there's a lot of trust involved. That doesn't mean that sex is the end-all, be-all, nor is it the same for everyone, but it should not be overlooked either. And women shouldn't be afraid to speak up and ask for what they want. No, demand it. We deserve it ;)
I love reading erotic romance and I love to write it. I think it can be empowering for women to realize they can fantasize and enjoy reading or writing about something they would never want to try in real life. I'm the most boring conventional person alive but in my books? I can express a different side of my personality. I have a theory that if what I write makes me hot, it should make readers hot too! Kate Pearce x
Hey MaryKate, all I have to say about your post is: yes, yes, yes to everything! Exactly! : )
Toni- I really like what you say about encouraging women to embrace what turns them on. Do I find menage scenes arousing and hot? You betcha. Do I want to have a menage? H*ll to the no! I don't. I've learned with erotic romance and erotica that it's totally fine for me to think that a scene is incredibly hot. It doesn't make me a sl.ut or a who.re, it makes me normal. It's something I wish more women would embrace and love about themselves. As women we're so programmed to "act like ladies" and think that any kind of sexual gratification is bad. I love the erotic romance and erotica allow us to explore our "darker" side, maybe that side that thinks that a spanking scene is hot, and more importantly: TO BE OK WITH IT. What you and other ER/E authors are doing is allowing women to embrace what turns them on, and explore it. It's a valuable thing, IMHO.
Stacy -- Thanks so much! I hope you enjoy EVERYTHING FORBIDDEN just as much as "Ancient Pleasures"!! :)
Hey, a little birdie (named Stacy) told me about this conversation, which is always a fave one for me, as Michelle and Stacy both well know : ) First, wow, I'm so honored to have my Lacey Alexander books mentioned - thanks to those of you who said kind things about them : )

Writing erotica (I refer to my Lacey work as romantic erotica since that's how I personally view it and how I differentiate it from my Toni Blake romances) happened almost by accident for me, and I'll be honest - it was initially about expanding my writing skills and making money ; ) But it quickly turned into a very freeing experience and I think that's what many *readers* of erotica/erotic romance get out of it, too - simply the freedom to think about and explore sexual ideas that so many of us were trained to consider *un*thinkable. What I learned is: you CAN think about "forbidden" things and life will go on. The sky won't fall, you'll still get up and eat breakfast in the morning, life continues as normal - except that you've allowed your mind to go someplace new and, in my opinion, someplace healthy.

As a writer, I have goals for my work. My goal for my Lacey Alexander books are pretty simple - I hope they encourage women to embrace their sexual fantasies (that doesn't mean live 'em, mind you, ; ) it just means to enjoy them and indulge in them freely 'cause they're not hurtin' anybody. ; )) For me, the absolute most gratifying part of writing erotica is all the mail I recieve. From women who, like me, simply find it freeing, to women who tell me how much my books have improved their marriage because it's made them more open-minded sexually or because they've shared the books with their husbands. One of my friends said, "Oh, so you write marital aids." I was like - whatever. For me, the big picture is: if I'm writing something that's bringing some kind of joy into people's lives, what more could I ask for?
Morning Bellas! Happy Monday. I have the day off today - woo hoo! - and I'm gonna be lazy :) I've read Kate Douglas, and yes it was beyond hot but it was also a bit...much. Enjoyable, definitely but too much of a good thing can take over the plot. I've only read the first few stories, so I don't know what happens throughout the series. Think I should keep reading?_____Slash fiction? Really, I am so out of the loop. I've never heard that. But yes, is is the whole bi-curious thing that worked for me - exploration with some truly alpha males. Now I loved Robin's & Jules' love story, and I wouldn't have minded a little more somethin' somethin' because I thought they were hot together - that first kiss was incendiary. Yet I think Suz did a wonderful job of exploring their love story instead of making it all about sex because that's truly what it was, and I found myself sighing with happiness for them. Though there was definitely more than a hint that R&J had plenty of that going on as well. I love that Jules was such a popular character, and her writing his story makes me love her even more. But then again, I'm a fan for life.____Jenna, I picked up "Everything is Forbidden" yesterday (after I got me a taste of Joaquin on the big screen - yum) and you may remember I mentioned how much I loved "Ancient Pleasures". I am so looking forward to reading this one today.
I think I will have to seek out this story 'The Assignment'... it sounds just my cup of tea. I once nearly wrote a slashfic for a Black Lace collection but never got around to it. It was similar in set up ie. two cops on an undercover/stakeout type job, who end up as lovers. The templates were going to be Spike and Angel, although 'not' them, if you know what I mean! LOL _____ Interesting about the psychodynamics, Michelle... It's second nature to me to write that sort of thing, I suppose, although I don't do it consciously. Have got a really strange relationship in my current WIP, and actually, it's proving quite tricky to handle. People game playing and working out issues as they fall in love without realising it, and even resist it. It's causing me some head scratching, but I'll get there in the end. ________ Leeann, enjoy your extra day off! And are you the *same* Leeann who posted a comment at LB? 'Cos if you are, you've won a prize! :) __________ Orianna, whereabouts are you that they don't sell BL yet?
Kati congrats on the part! I’m glad it went well for you. ______ At first I was a little skeptical of erotica but then Toni Blake did her big coming out party at Squawk Radio and I had to give her books a try and read her Lacey Alexander books and was hooked. Then I found out about Ms. Portia and read her books and was hooked again and it helped me spread out to other authors. Know I know that there are so many books out there and so little time to read them all. It’s very hard to keep up LOL. I always want to read the new books coming out and want to read all of the back lists that I have missed :o) ____Ok I’m off to start Marsha Canham’s “The Pride of Lions”. Hope everyone had a good weekend! Mine gets to last an extra day since my daycare is closed tomorrow. Yeah it’s just breaking my heart to have to take an extra day off ;o)
Whew! I tried to word my response carefully so everyone would know I wasn't dissing the genre but simply indicating personal preference. Looks like I succeeded. -- I just finished Brockmann's latest where Jules and Robin get their HEA. Very emotional but she deliberately steered away from explicitly describing the sex because she wanted the emotion to be the focus and not the mechanics. I uh... wouldn't have minded a few mechanics. ;-) I just think she's so courageous to risk turning off some fans in order to portray gay romance in such a positive light. It was a joy to meet her in Dallas and get to chat for a few moments. -- Marilyn
Hi Michelle and all!

Thanks so much for the very nice review. :) I don't think I could write anything without a hefty dose of romance. LOL It's just not in my make up, I guess. I think you have to have a hefty does of both in order for a book to work well as an erotic romance. :) Hopefully you guys will like EVERYTHING FORBIDDEN as much as Michelle did! :)
Michelle - You should check out Kate Douglas. She specializes in m/m "in hand" scenes. Verra, verra HAWT! ;oP
Thanks for the well wishes, everyone! Orianna, I need the HEA, too. But the more I explore erotica with kind of "alternative" HEAs, I appreciate how authors are including all kinds of scenarios. Of course, you know I consider it romance when it's got the soft or traditional HEA, but I can appreciate alternative endings, too. Buona fortuna on the risotto!_______Hey, MK! What's better than a hot m/m scene? A hot man "taking himself in hand," of course! You know, I haven't read a m/m scene in which one or both take themselves in hand. Oooo. I think I'm on a mission...______Yes, Portia, I do love your group scenes. They're very freeing to read and fantasize about. There's a very interesting dynamic in "Hotbed," in which some pain is involved consentually, but with a very complex twist. It's very well related, and wrapped up later. I think that's a freedom and style we see in Virgin erotica/erom which we don't see in "American" erom/erotica; there are complex psychodynamics always at play, which add a darker tone that harkens toward true erotica. It's quite fascinating.
Hiya, Bellas! Stace, you bring up what I think is a very important aspect of male/male (m/m) scenarios. For many women to be able to enjoy them, the guys -- at least one -- has to be straight or "bi-curious." Can't really be simply bi or gay for many women [of course, Suzanne Brockmann's robin/jules is example of relationship that's been developed over time). Is it the woman reader's need to think she "could have the guy" or be the hetero heroine placeholder? Maybe. But I started noticing the phenomenon a while ago. I'm sure someone's done a study on it._____Anywayz, the book you describe about the straight cops is pretty much drawn from "slash" fiction, popular on the Inet. Goes sumthin like this: two guys from pop culture -- I think started w/ Spock/Kirk [hence the "slash" from the slash in the mid of names] -- falling for each other after having had regular guyfriend relationship up to that point. The important part of slash is that there's honest emotion coupled with the sexual exploration; the guys are in love.____I must say that, like you, I have several parts of Emma Holly's "Fairyville" dog eared. :)_____I think it's totally cool that women have found this really interesting and exciting type of imagery/relationship to write/read/explore in erotic romance (erom or er) and erotica. Just another example of our allowing ourselves freedom to find what turns us on and consume it.
I discovered ER quite by accident last year - I was reading the synopsis of a book (Wolf Tales I by Kate Douglas) and thinking it sounded rather interesting but it wasn't until I reserved it that I realised it was ER. I must admit, I like to have the HEA ending...it doesn't matter if it isn't 'traditional' and the emotional connection. I've just discovered Maya Banks - she's very good. Stacy, the Evangaline Anderson book sounds very interesting! I might have to hunt that one down - is it part of an anthology? I like Lora Leigh, Kate Douglas and the one and only Lacey Alexander book I have (thanks to Lacey and Michelle :) Portia, I keep hunting for your books but they haven't reached here yet (but I keep hoping :)

orannia

PS Congratulations on the dinner party MK! I was going to attempt to cook my first ever risotto this weekend, but I got side-tracked. Fingers crossed for this weekend :)